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David Flink got kicked out of four schools. Then he went to Brown, then Columbia and spent the next 28 years building systems so that nobody else has to earn their humanity through performance.
David is the founder of the Neurodiversity Alliance (reaching 600+ schools nationwide), author of Thinking Differently, CNN Hero, and recipient of the Bezos Courage & Civility Award, which came with $5 million to direct toward the cause he's dedicated his life to. His second book, 20% Smarter, drops in 2027.
But more than any of that, David is one of the most practically wise people I've ever sat across from.
The throughline of everything David believes: misalignment isn't a personal failure. It's a design failure. And the moment you internalize that (about your employees, your kids, yourself) everything about how you lead and live starts to shift.
In this episode, we cover:
— Why there's no such thing as a bad employee (only a bad manager, a broken expectation, or a context nobody updated)
— The critical difference between expectations and agreements and why one of them is silently destroying your team
— The "work IEP": the user manual every person on David's team fills out, and why you'd be "nuts" to lead someone without it
— His get-out-of-jail-free card framework: how to give people the benefit of the doubt before you spiral into assumption and blame
— The one-liner that stops you mid-trigger: "It's hard work being a person, which means it's hard work for everyone else you're talking to too"
— The three gates every story you tell yourself has to pass through
— Why psychological safety has to be rebuilt every time the team changes
— What the invention of the newspaper has to do with Gen Z's cognitive decline
— Why curiosity is the single most underrated tool for both leadership and conflict resolution
— What it means to truly leave every interaction better than you found it
This one is for you if you're a founder, manager, teacher, or parent who wants to lead the actual humans in front of you, not the idealized, neurotypical, always-performing version of them.
David talks about kindness with spine. The kind that still demands excellence, still holds standards, but starts from a place of genuine curiosity about who's actually in the room.
Don't Be a Jerk is hosted by Healey Cypher — founder, CEO of BoomPop, and someone who believes that being a good leader and being a good human are the same job.
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